There is an easy way that any Elliott Wave analysts can figure out if we should be counting in Grand Supercycle degree or lower.
Just that fact that a person questions, in what degree we may be in, tells me this person has enough Elliott Wave knowledge that he can follow a wave count, or find a location of a large degree wave position, when it is pointed out to them.
Once we find this common position then all future wave counts from that point forward, unfold in a sequence that is predetermined by the Fibonacci Spiral, and one big impulse wave. Just because we do not know exactly where we are in this pattern does not mean it does not exist.
The largest degree always starts from a wave zero, and we can start this wave zero about 12,000 BC, followed by the start of agriculture around 10,000 BC.
If we count back from 2000 AD we have about 14-15 Millennium cycles.
This is the core Elliott Wave Spiral, where all my wave counting originates from. Three degree levels of 1-2 waves have been started, and the next one would be wave 1-2 in GSC degree.
This translates onto a real world chart, and from about the 1835-37 peak, all wave ones, decline down the degree stack, one degree at a time. Counting real world wave counts can not be done without knowledge, or a good understanding that all wave threes in the stock markets are always the longest. It is a core essential rule that should not be broken.
As this entire degree count declines in the one-two waves, to the point of the last minor degree 1-2 wave ,then we have reached the point of "no" return.
The last Intermediate degree wave 3-4 may have been the 1987 stock market crash.
All subsequent waves that need to be finished are nothing but 3-4-5 wave sequences. Trying to find waves 3-4-5 in Cycle degree, in the stock market is where we are today.
The most important fact to remember is that all Elliott Waves form and develop in patterns over time, and they all connect together by degree levels, much like a DNA sequence in the human body. When the Elliott Waves fall out of this sequencial code, then this is the same as having our DNA re sequenced.
If this happens to man, next thing you know we could be born with 4 legs or three arms, but I am just kidding, as it may be 8 legs and three arms.:)
All degree of patterns are always in force at all times, and we need to know which pattern in what degree has passed, then this provides a very fixed or secure location that all other degrees can be measured to, or synchronized with.
No degree in a pattern can march, jump or move forward in time, in front of the next highest degree. It is mathematically impossible in the Fibonacci sequence and in the Elliott Wave sequence to jump two degree level numbers ahead.
The Fibonacci sequence is the math that holds Elliott Wave Principle together, and it does not take kindly, when this math is abused. All the Grand Supercycle degree wave counters are telling us that 3+5 equals 21!
All the time that I have been looking at the commodities sections, I have been counting in Cycle degree, and this has not changed, but wave counts in GSC or SC degree change like the wind.
If we take oil, silver and gold to start with, we can track back using our 20/20 hindsight laser vision, to the 1980's peak. We can see that this peak is a Cycle degree wave three. Cycle degree wave counting in commodities has never left the building, even though I tried to make commodities fit into a SC degree world several times. EWI tried to do the same thing for years as they had gold in SC degree. The main reason that it all failed under SC degree is because we are "not" in SC degree. If Cycle degree wave 5 is not completed or identified, then we are nowhere near SC degree, and without SC degree we will never find GSC degree! It is all about the pecking order, and all future wave counts need all the Cycle degree locations before they can work.
If we take those 1980's peaks as secure locations, then it is technically, "
impossible for the regular stock market to jump two degrees ahead", and be anywhere near a SC degree or GSC degree wave 3.
A single jump forward by one degree can mean about a 2.618 difference, and two jumps would be a 4.618 difference, so you can see how far off we could be with just one degree never mind two whole degrees.
For the regular stock market to drop down two degrees, to match closer to silver and gold, then it must have it's wave three peak sometime in 2000 or 2007, not in the 1970's. All the market extensions that I have found in the past, has brought the stock market much closer in line with commodities.
I love the story about the cracking of the code with the Enigma machine, and if we think or relate 5 wheels in the Enigma machine as one degree level each, then this gives millions of combinations where the code can be wrong. I think it translates to about 150 million possible combinations for one character. Once the wheels are all in perfect sequence then the message can get through.
The lower the degree we can work in, within reason, helps speed up the unfolding waves. If it takes 4 years or more just to figure out that a GSC degree wave count is wrong, then this is far too long to confirm any wave count in our super fast world of today!